how much energy is needed to be that person? and with mandela it is a very low-energy ebb. he's very quiet. inside, he is quiet. i learned that. he is commanding. he has a most commanding presence without being lordly. he doesn't walk into a room as nelson mandela. he walks into a room as madiba, as nelson. he doesn't take the room. the room gives itself. when he first got into robben island and they issued short pants to everyone except the one indian among them, he rejected his long pants. madiba said, no, put them on. we will all have long pants. he said to himself, they're going to call me mister. how did he do that? he hears the guard's child is sick. he says, how is your baby, is he all right? things like that. he doesn't feel like the big success we all hold him up as. he thinks of himself personally, deep inside, because of his family life. >> south africa became his family. >> yeah. so his obligations to his village, to winnie, his son, that weighs on him today. and it infuses his being with a sadness. >> william ernest henley. >> that poem was his favorite. as he